I agree that AR are here to stay, but the herd reduction is not and will be modified once the PGC gets the herd to a reasonable number. Yes, the timber industry has a hand in all this but so does the future of all of our hunting grounds that support the deer or other wildlife we hunt. There will never be the numbers of deer there used to be, but if we continue not to manage the deer population there will be even less deer because all the forest will be bare and there won't be enough quality feed to sustain them. Smaller DMU's, I believe, are on the way but we have to do our job first.