listen buddy (swampbird), I havent been hunting for long but i know when someone asks for advice usually people dont critize them, ive hunted with agaucher for a few years and i've seen him make shots that no normal human being could make. And you cant sit there and tell everyone that you havent taken more that a couple of shots at the same animal. I agree with agaucher come to british columbia and try your luck and i guarantee you will go home with a different prespective on running shots.