As I said bud I just started trad And just boaught a recurve. Hnever hunted trad But I will I did post I shot it with a compound , Hell I was just excited It made the books. Thats all. They are makeing me out to be some sort of liar, Hell I got two witnesses that saw the stalk and ecverything. I think I know why people never talk about large tropheys. Thanks for posting for me. Cheers Rich