Thanks for all the help, gots some ideas to play with now. I pretty sure that this will end up a nock/rest issue if i start playing with it. I am sure it is not riser tourqe because that was the first thing I was taught when a started shooting ...NOT to grip the bow. Just out of curiuosity..what do you fletching shooters do in the rain? I dont me mist or drizzle, I mean staying on stand waiting thru a downpour. One of the reasons that I went back to 4" vanes was because the teflon powders and stuff didnt work very well. Come on give me the secret!

P.S. ijimmy...brain fart in typin' 32" arrow!