Well cant say I didnt learn somthing. One thing i would like to piont out is the broadhead plane problem was very specific. In other words, I did try a few things...changed from a thicker wall to a stiffer spine..same problem, changed from 3" to 4" vanes..same rpoblem, tried fletching..same problem. I even went and found true center of my arrows and used a roller to check for staigtness..same problem. My bow was checked out a few times by the local shop and they found nothing wrong. I could shoot filed pionts and they grouped great..in fact i robin hooded three and used to have to carry a 35mm cansitor of nocks during practice because I would drive nocks off. But when it came to fixed blade practice...the arrows would group into the size of a quater or less and they were ALWAYS 3 inches high and left of the bullseye. Oh yeah, almost forgot...I even tried those disks that fit over the blades that was supposed to remove the planing effect from the blades...same thing happened and yes the blades were directly in line with the vanes. I had a buddy make up three arrows of left hand heliciol...they just flew like crap. I have been down the road of trying fixed blades, I have o boxed of all kinds of brands, they all did the same thing. I would LOVE to shoot a fixed blade, the worst I shot were Thunderheads. Maybe I try again. I know of one deer that I didnt have a problem with penatration on though. See pic, got this dude the weekend after gun season ended here in Delaware.