I have the bear river nomad climber and I hate the damn thing. It use the braker bite system to attach to the tree. It is comfortale to sit in, but I ahte climbing with it. You can either climb without undoing the seat and its not easy to climb with, or you can put the seat in the back and sit on it to climb with and it sjnot tobad. Then there is a problem when you get up the tree. If you used the seat to sit and climb yhou know have to undo it again and put it back so you can sit in it, or yuo can step over it. I hate trying to step over it when I am 20-30 feet up in a tree.

Then there is the foor strap. It has a 2 in wide strap you slide your fot under, then you pull a bungee around teh back of yoiur boot to keep it snug.. well when you are getting ready to climb down, its a pain in the azz. you have to bend down in the stand and wiggle your foot around to get it into the strap, then if youir luck you did not have your foot on the bungee. arggggg I am getitng tired of it. I am to the point where I just would rahter go a ladder stand or a tripod that is already setup. I am not going ot soem of my good spots anymore cause I just dont want to use my climber.......

I used a freinds the other day and I could beleive how easy it was, its called the tomcat 2 I was not used to facing the tree but it seems ok after trying it...

here is a pic of mine..