there is a tract of state game lands out here in pike county in north east PA that is almost 12,000 acres....yes it's hunted hard and yes it's hard to see deer at times....when i got my buck this year in bow season it was the one of maybe 10 deer i have seen on game lands this year in that area....and yes with it being bow season there wasn't alot of guys in the woods but that doesn't mean alot either with something this big in acres and no food plots so you can't pattern the deer like on farm land....i only hunt public land as i don't know anyone who has good land so to speak....and i'm sure out here in pike co there's alot of deer still cause when i go to work at 10:00 pm i just bout hit 2 deer a week going to and from work and that's a low avg....and the comment bout keep shooting deer after the freezer is full must know guys with a small freezer....i have a 5.0 cu foot freezer that is the height of a office frig that will hold 6 deer....and have never filled it yet....last year with 4 deer it was still half empty....and if i have doe tags still after my freezer happens to get full i know lots of people that will take the deer and will be greatful for me doing that for them....and i will keep going out hunting cause i like the outdoors and the feeling WE ALL get being out there....i think we all feel....if i don't "KILL A DEER" oh well but i enjoyed myself out there while i still can....and if your one who complains bout not seeing deer when you go out there well i think your one who has to kill something each and every time you go out into the woods....i've gone a whole week without seeing something to kill in one's mind but haven't gone on any forum and vented bout not seeing anything....well i've said enough and to those who are in the same mindset as me will understand what i've just said....everyone have a marry christmass and a happy new year..............bob