I'm not narrow minded by any stretch. Are you one of those guys that doesn't get a deer one year so you figure that the system must have something to do with it? Do you hunt often or was last Monday the first time in the woods this year? I have a friend that hunts strickly traditional bow and has had a shot at a deer at least once a week (that's right, no gun, just a stick with a string and he hunts public land that gets hit hard). I hunt in both 3b and 5c, both private and public and have had no problem seeing deer this year nor last. I don't think my area is managed any different than yours. The only thing that I do agree with is that there are too many doe tags sold.