I TELL YA I H AVE NOT SEEN AS MANY BUCKS THIS YEAR AS I HAVE IN THE PAST...I SAW 2 SO FAR A NICE 8 AND A HUGE 6 UPSTATE... I ALSO HUNT ON LONG ISLAND AND SEEN MORE DEER HERE THEN UP THERE... ALL IN ALL FROM LISTENING TO EVERYONE IT HAS NOT BEEN A PRODUCTIVE YEAR