We only use shotguns in Southhampton and you do have to take a look to see how big it is. We are trying to pass up that marginal deer to let them get a year or two older. We take jaw bones and weights of all deer and get a data sheet bake from the game dept. Most of our deer are 2 to 3 1/2 years old. If we let them get to be 3 and 4 years old the rakes will be much bigger.