Although PA has a TON of whiny hunters, I've also learned that some of them have a point. Many places of this state are far from the Rosey picture you've painted BM. Places like you and I hunt cannot even be remotely compared to the pounding that goes on in many of the public land areas. Yes in a lot of areas the deer needed thinned, but not exterminated. There is also a lot more that could be done (logging) that would benefit the deer and the forests. The only reason deer depend on crops is becuase they are there. Its not because there is nothing else to eat(except maybe in real poor mast years) Deer in my area aren't any bigger body wise than they were before. Yea some of the bucks are able to get older and bigger, but the year and a halfers are still the same size. You've got a dream area to hunt as far as PA goes, hold on to it, but also realize it is FAR from the average hunting spot here in PA.