The state is to big to manage like it is one big farm. I hunted 44 years and dont expect to get a deer every trip. But reallY now 256 hours I spent in 3 different spots so far and seen 17 deer. People say move to another spot.I ask you where?? What must one do ? move sell and resell there property to follow the herd??? The hunter is not being represented by the comissioners they care more about trees then deer.They make more money off the trees. If they want to be forrest rangers then change professions. Why cant we as hunters vote on changes ??? or at least vote for the comisssioners. I know I'm going to get grief from some.But Crops do make a difference. Just put out 1 acre of oak trees and 1 acre of corn,soybeans alphalfa,or biologic and see where the deer go first. Most the big bucks are shot around the burbs areas mixed with farms. I realize upstate is hilly and rocky. But if the state is going to sell the timber ,why cant for every 50 acres sold 5 acres can be put in to crops where possible.They do it in other states. They did it in our state in some public lands and stopped.Why they were loosiing the timber revenue they were lining there pockets with. And why dont the hunters with property plant crops ?? Cheap I quess. Heck I tore up my back yard ,after a considerably argument with the wife and spent my car insurance payment for my chevelle to plant food for the deer. Not to shoot them ,but to GIVE back to the system.THATS THE ANSWER WE AS HUNTERS MUST GIVE,GIVE, GIVE BACK. buck magnet I would guess you have agriculture in your area?Good if you do and have fun and I hope your area stays good. I just wish I had the political clout to start a organization to gather hundreds of thousands of hunters in pa not to even purchase a doe tag next year.But that is not feesible. heck we cant even get along on a board. I tell you what I'm going to throw a party for all of us f I ever come up with enough money to get out of this stupid state. I was born and raised here ,but lived other places. I know how much better it can be.Including cheaper living, lower taxes, .I just get tired of people complaining also and doing nothing. I do what I can. And I just burned my doe tags and tore up my yard . Especially here in SE Pa these people still think the earth is flat. AND EVERYBODY SAID.GEE I'M GLAD HE IS DONE AND WHEN YOU MOVE DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE BUTT. PEACE