gselkhunter---Very well said!!!

Can you imagine calling in every bull? Boy that'd take the fun & excitement right out of it. Those are the very reasons I personally am hooked on elk hunting. (archery) The challenge of bringing elk in close is a never ending learning experience. Sure we bring in our share as you do. But the ones we remember the most are the ones that gave us the slip, and what we need to do to adjust, and avoid such mishaps.

I totally agree a hunter needs to have an unlimited arsenal when it comes to elk hunting. My motto is never give up, take advantage of every opportunity, adapt your thinking to a method that fits the encounter. Not one strategy works for any elk all the time.

Yes, it's important to never talk over ones audience. I feel you must share things they can grasp and understand and let them digest and grow with it. Being in the woods and having first hand experiences is the best teacher, but guys like us can help less experienced ones to shorten the learning curve just a bit, therefore avoiding many of the mistakes we made because there was no one to tell us differently. --- One thing I truly enjoy is helping others, without a doubt I'm as or more excited than they are when I can call in someones first bull, you'd swear it was the first time I ever hunted. <big grin> Thanks--ElkNut1