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I will be perfectly honest that when I am talking to someone about someone killing a big deer and they tell me they shot it with a gun. In my own mind I am thinking well that doesn't even count or that's no accomplishment. That's just how I feel about. I don't care if a guy has five 190 class bucks on the wall, if he didn't kill them with a bow, then I don't admire, respect, or look up to his accomplishment. I do occaisionally gun hunt and it goes the same for me when I kill one with a gun. I don't feel like I did anything and like adams mentioned I literally feel "dirty" about it.
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However, I get personal satisfaction from knowing that I am setup with the equipment that I am most proficient with and that gives me the best chance of cleanly harvesting any animal that I choose to take. We're all different. If everyone took satisfaction from the same things not only would this world be a boring place but we wouldn't be able to hunt without a person in every other tree, because all 280 million Americans would all be bowhunting etc. I personally don't care what anybody hunts with (including a crossbow) and I have trouble understanding how others feel like they have the right to judge another individuals actions so long as they are legal and ethical.
Let me start here and work my way down. I am not judging anyone. I assume that is what your reference was with this post. I have opinions about particulars aspects of hunting as does every other member of this forum. I am merely expressing those opinions.
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Well that's absolutely part of it. I spend 99% of my time hunting with a bow because I think gun hunting is too easy and doesn't deserve the respect that bowhunting does so naturally when I kill one with a gun I feel like I shouldn't have done it that way and that I was cheating.
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It seems like that I have said that about 18 times but it certainly didn't hurt to say it again A little understanding goes a long way. People just don't realize what a negative impact they have on their own message when they try to force feed it down peoples throats on every other thread. I don't open the kind of threads that I think will turn into the "well you should really be doing it my way" threads much any more.
I use to argue to the contrary but I have now changed my opinion and believe that we should be able to disagree and still cooperate with each other. I pointed out this very thing in the "rooting for the deer post. So, really your just pointing out what I have already pointed out. However, I will quote my statement here for you:
I have always supported others right to hunt with whatever method they choose but like some of you I use to think that others should not express feelings to the contrary but I now realize that as intelligent adults we should be able to disagree and still be able to cooperate, communicate, and get along.
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I just don't see why it makes you any difference if someone kills one at 6 or 60 so long as it doesn't affect you. I don't understand why someone would want to impose their standards on another or pass judgement on them.
I guess I missed the point you were trying to make with this one. I am not trying to tell anyone they shouldn't gun hunt or that they are immoral for gun hunting or anything of the nature. I am merely pointing out how I view each accomplishment and how I have differing levels of esteem for the different accomplishments. I am not saying that killing deer with a gun is unethical which I believe is precisely what that statement was in response to.
Crossbow hunters don't want to see an elitist attitude from compound hunters anymore than compound hunters want to see an elitist attitude from trads.
I admit that as a compound hunter I don't like to see the same attitude, that I have, when it is directed at me by trads however whether I like it or not they have a justified right (I hope ArthurP isn't reading this[:'(][:@]
) based on their value system at feeling the way they do just like I am justified at feeling they way that I do based on my value system though I may have argued to the contrary at some point, just for the sake of arguing