I have only read the 1st page of post but I am w/ you Blodg I like you understand we need gun hunting to keep the herd in check I just hate having to deal w/ these nonhunting idiot. This year I saw deer every trip to my small but nice lease. Lots of small bucks and does as well as a few nice ones. Gun season opened last weekend and on Monday morning I only saw 2 doe all week. On the Friday before season another hunter on our lease was bowhuning and heard deer blowing up wind of him, huh, weird he thought. The same thing happend to me on Monday, then on Wednesday, BAM!!! not 75 yards from one of our leasers. He thought it was me but it wasn't, then Sunday We heard another shot, long story short we caught them. They had put corn out and everything. Never mind the posted signs and all, no orange or anything. Absolute idiots. They were a half a mile from they propery they were suppose to be hunting. Well we turned them in and they got a couple of tickets but our land is contaminated and ruined for the next couple of weeks. There is no telling how much walking around they did back in bedding areas. Man I was pissed. Ya I hate deer drives too. I could understand the last day of season or something but not opening weekend, no way thats hunting. Just my opinion.