Just to point something else out...the SKS and the 9mm carbine are far and away from being in the same class...the SKS is capable of ~1600ft.lbs. at the muzzle, still over 1000ft.lbs. at 100yrds (many states have a minimum of 1000ft.lbs. at the muzzle requirement)...the 9mm+P carbine performs similarly to a .357mag handgun, capable of ~750ft.lbs. at the muzzle...Very few people find the .357mag in a handgun "unethical" for deer hunting.

I'll challenge that there are fewer deer "injured" with semiautos than you think...truth be told, I'm betting it is universal for all action types, if they're out there taking poor shots, it's not the gun's fault, and I'm sure they don't think that much into it to pick up a semiauto just so they can take a lot of poor shots.

I would HONESTLY bet that there are more deer injured by bullets that EXITED another deer beside them, or by bullets that were deflected by brush than those that are injured by guys spraying and praying with semiautos...and like I said, I'll bet that there aren't really any more deer injured by hunters "rapid firing" semiautos than by hunters with bolt guns that "just winged a shot out there"....

I'd also venture there are FAR more deer deer injured annually by "hunters" who aren't shooters, especially bow hunters (no offense to bow hunting, it's just harder to be "natural" at bow shooting)...guys that take out their rifle and put a few shots on a page at 25yrds, "yep, dead on at 25 is dead on at 100", and then go afield, or guys that leave their bow in the closet until the first day of season.

What you're thinking of is something else, it's not hunting. Guys that just walk out into the woods and let lead fly, from ANY action type, aren't hunters, regardless of whether they bought tags or wore orange, or if season is in or not, of they've got permission to be out there. They may not be honest to God poachers, but they're only not so by the letter of the law, not the intent. But, they aren't hunters. A hunter can ethically kill a deer with virtually any weapon, which is why I feel confident taking a .357mag pistol, or a 9mm carbine afield, I know the capabilities of the round, and I can virtually assure proper bullet placement.

If you banned hunting with semiauto's because guys are out there flinging lead at anything that moves, you'll just see an increase in levergun and pump gun sales...and when you've banned those, you'll still see wounded deer by guys that are just walking out with single shots and winging shots off at deer.

In general function, there is no difference between a SKS and a BAR or 7400, chamber the 7400 in a .30-30 and you've basically got an SKS...they all fire a bullet and automatically load the next round...the difference is in your head, just because you think of the SKS as an assault rifle, and remingtons as hunting rifles.

It's not the guns, it's the people shooting them. Taking away the guns isn't going to stop these so called hunters from being unethical.


I pose these questions: Why is the BAR or 7400 so much more acceptable than an SKS? The only difference is the cartridges? Would a Ruger M77 in 7.62x39mm be ethical then? And how do you feel about the Winchester 94? Why is a leveraction in .30-30, which is basically equivalent in FIRE RATE, POWER, AND ACCURACY acceptable when the SKS isn't?

If it's the fire rate that concerns you, then you can't prefer the BAR, 7400, or Ruger Deerfield, if it's the cartridge, then the .30-30 and the Ruger bolt gun aren't ethical in your eyes either...If it's the accuracy, then you've got to shoot my rifles before you comment on my ethics.

Be honest with yourself, you've fallen for the whole "assault rifle" hype and haven't figured out why yet.