You aren't gunna believe this but as long as we're on the subject I am thinking about making an arrow crester.My motor is a 12 Volt electric proto-type,from a 2003 chrysler minivan it runs the front windows up and down.The engineers threw away a bunch of stuff when they finished winter cold testing here in No. MN this winter.(this is what I do in the winter time). One of our mechanics turned a nice chuck for me out of alum. on his lathe and mounted it on the motor.Now all I have to do is design and build the rest of it!Gotta warm up first as it hasn't been above zero here for the last 24 hrs.I hate winter-I want to go out and shoot!!!!! Cam--(good shootin' Toxo !) <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>