Would have got a 160 class ten pointer if my party would learn how to shoot. 40 yards away from all of the them and nobody even came close. I never had a chance at him my self, I usually do the dog work in the brush, but I guess is alright at least my father got a crack at him, he's older and dosen't get out much, probably made his season, nobody shot him on the property across the street, but they did see him thou. Back to the grindstone tommorrow. good luck boys and gals.