Thanks jeff for the info.I have one question in my head.As far as bringing the herd number in line with the available food.Why elminate deer if you can add the food sources???? And States I hunt in come to mind like Iowa,Texas,Missouri I see lots of deer maybe 40 to 60 a day in Iowa ,but yet they have awesome buck.Has to be the food source i quess. Pa. has the area for huge food sources in its gamelands. They have alot of public land,but all they do is sell the timber and dont aggressively farm it and supply the food.In my mind that would be alot better.Healthy deer and enough for everone to fill there freezer. Maybe I'm all wet,but I'm tired of seeing 5 deer a week in Pa. and there going to eliminate more.Myself and my friends almost made up our minds not even to buy a Pa. license this year.We are almost ready to lease some land in Alabama where you have enough deer to shoot one a day.Two weeks there and I can shoot more deer then I can shoot here in 10 years.Then go to Missouri for the big buck If thats your thing.I really dont care if it has antlers or not as long as it is mature and healthy.Thanks