Shuler, I don't know where you live, but we've got too many does in MS. I've been on DMAP (deer management assistance program) for 10 years and I may take only 1 buck and 12-15 does myself, total 75-100 does per year on our club. We've seen it cause an overall increase in deer weight, improved age structure, improved buck:doe ratio, and bigger racked bucks. It didn't happen overnight, but it happened. Changing old opinions is hard to do though. Good luck.