Il. I don't beleive that my post said anything about shooting and loosing a deer because of the broadhead. I said that I was not impressed with the penetration. I shot two deer last year within 30 yards and neither one were complete pass throughs. I had no trouble finding either deer but the arrow was still in them. And if I'm not mistaken of all of the deer that I've killed with mechanicals only 1-2 were completed pass throughs. Now maybe you don't mind leaving your arrow in the deer or maybe your choice of mechanicals acheives the penetration that makes you happy but for me it will be fixed from here on out.