I have used both stands quite abit older model treelounge and just got a new viper last season. Both are comfortable and stable ,but the viper is much easier to set up and easier to stand in for bow hunting. I am 6' and 225 and i feel safer standing on the viper to hunt . Will say this i use the tl to video tape and take pics just because i do sometimes fall asleep. For the money the viper is the ticket .stable , ultra quite and comfortable also easier to stand up in. Hope this helps.