I commend you with some of your solutions Deaddeer. Like others have said I have always heard you saying what is wrong with deer management in PA but never any solutions, until I pushed you for them. Sorry for that skirting the issue comment, I realized that you weren't talking to me after I wrote it.

As for your post I agree that maybe the PGC should have waited on the Antler restrictions. I think maybe they are trying to tackle all of the problems at once, instead of one piece at a time. But I think this stems from trying to keep everyone happy in PA, which we all know is next to impossible. But I do think antler restrictions work and are necessaryin PA, maybe just not right now

As for making more private land accessible to more hunters, my hunting buddy and I have talked to Dr. Alt personally about this and there is more to it than just a public relations blitz. Specifically we talked to him about some sort of program for crop damaged farms, besides Dmap. But there are some major legislative hurdles to overcome there. But I do agree a public relations blitz is a step in the right direction but it needs to be taken much farther with maybe some incentives for landowners for letting hunters on their land. The PGC is doing this a little bit right now but IMHO not enough. Us hunters need to show these landowners that the majority of us are nice law abiding citizens and will respect their property, yes that is an uphill battle with more and more property being posted every day but it can happen. There are alot of hunters in PA who really care about the animals they hunt, working together we can open up some of this land to us.

Well I commend you again Deaddeer. you have some good ideas. You have gained some respect from me for that post.