EKM---I'm going to be completely honest here in the impression I get when I read your thread here and some of the problems you've come across with various members of your hunting group. You seem to have rules and standards that ones have to meet before they're excepted in your group. In other words you're not letting folks be themselves, they have to be someone they're not, to try and fit in to your so called "members" only group. (my term) Please do not take offense, I mean none.

I feel that's an uncomftorable feeling and not enjoyable at all to be around. Now no one likes a lazy bum around camp, and I for one have never seen one or had one in our base camp of 14 years, but by the same token I don't expect others to do or be the same as everyone else in camp, we are there for two reasons, have fun, and harvest elk!!

I've seen a lot of men and youths come and go over the years, and as I look back I'd be more than happy to welcome them back a little at a time. Many have come from this site as well as others. Granted, most of this is under bowhunting conditions. (some rifle) If you're a bowhunter I think most hunters come to camp in a different frame of mind, they know it takes a lot of hard work coupled with a sincere desire to hunt and harvest an elk with a bow and are willing to do just that. And yes, we have a hell of a lot of fun doing it. So far we must consider ourselves lucky I guess, because we've been surrounded over the years with a great bunch of guys. I'd say at least 80 different guys 6 of who are regular each year. Maybe we are always to busy packing elk meat out on our backs to get on each others nerves!!! (big grin)

Remember it's not a job, sure we all want to be successful but at the same time you've got to have fun and make it enjoyable for others when they're down for whatever reason!!

Good Luck and I hope you find the right combonation and enjoy the same fellowshipping that we have!! ElkNut1