I have been using the 85 gr bullet in a 243 Win for years on deer and antelope and have never lost an animal . The buck I shot this year was trotting at 200 yards when I shot him . Top of the shoulders ,broke both shoulders and shattered the spine with a Barnes triple shock bullet ,about a one inch exit hole . If anyone can tell me of something that would have done a better job I would be interested to hear of it . Hal