when you say traditional do you mean black powder traditional....but you guys don't even use real black powder in these rifle or shotgun primered rifles....don't get me wrong about inlines there here and thats that....but please don't say traditional when it's just an inline....inline meaning that it's fired just like a centerfire that it's just loaded down the muzzl "hence the name muzzleloader"....but you guys shoot with a scope plastic stocks and shinny SS barrels....it's all to get another chance at in another deer season....i own a T/C hawken flintlock .50 and use it in the regular deer season with all the other guys with there centerfires....along with the blackpowder seasons....like i said don't get me wrong about inlines to each there own but calling them traditional just gets under my skin....i bet anyone if they shoot a flintlock or even a caplock with open sights you guys might even switch to them for they are great to shoot and when you down a deer with them it's even better then nailing one at over 100 yards that didn't even know you where there with an inline....i know when i can count eyelashes and the deer doesn't know i'm there yet brings awhole new meaning of buck fever even if it's not a buck....onca again sorry just venting at the saying of traditional while talking about an inline....wishing you guys luck in your hunting season........................bob