Summits are great stands but I do prefer my Lone Wolf Jim. If you do try out or buy a Lone Wolf sitnclimb, make sure its the 2004 model because the new Lone Wolf seat with backrest is much better. Jim, the Lone Wolf is very quiet, strong, safe and easy to pack, but hopefully you can try one out first. Also, the Lone Wolf sitnclimb top is not as wide as Summits, so if you are a real big guy you might not like it. Test drive one if you can, but I think you will like the Lone Wolf.