I have a Bullet, which is basically a Viper that packs flat. I just got it this year and still have my Loggy Bayou Classic. I've been very pleased with the Bullet. It has a bar enclosure which I like because I'm not a big fan of heights. It's very comfortable and pretty quiet. I still use my Loggy on bigger trees, but my Bullet is the stand of choice. I'd definitely recommend it.