I have been going through the same delima myself for the past couple of years. The local "big boys" around here have all gone to Steiners but I just didn't want to pay that kind of price for binoculars. I want waterproof and fogproof but not bank nreaking. I finally found some called Barskas. They utilize the BAK-4 lenses and they are as clear as the most expensive ones I've ever looked through. They are reasonable in cost and I love them.