ive hunted all but 4 days so far, in the AM. and seen only 10 deer all season, all of which were youngins, that i seen mid mountain to down low, all the aldult doe ive seen were closer to the top. i took off work tonight to hunt the evening, and saw 2 yearlings come down the mountain at 5:00. it took me almost an hour to walk back up to the top to my truck and then i heard snorting and stomping that i would say was from mature deer. all the rub lines ive been watching in the middle of the mountain, seem to be staying the same without nothing new in the area. so tommorrow im going to try the flats on the top of the mountains. with so many acorns they dont have to move far. so im thinking the trick is get close to their bedding areas as quietly as possable.