Guys, I have no reason to lie. Maybe this guy is fudging his numbers. I don't know! I was only giving what I got. I even wrote it down and posted the second time so I wouldn't look stupid. I obviously don't have near the experience as the rest of you. I believed it, but you guys have more experience and know what will affect speed. I wish I would of never put those numbers in the first post. I just wanted to let the original poster know my view and experience. I know why I quit coming here as often now though. When I did shoot the MM everyone was ready to lend a hand giving advice. Now I shoot a Mathews and its all turned, all a guy gets is Mathews bashing. At least one thing I can and am able to admit is that Bowtech has a great line even though I don't shoot one. I think most of you would rather have bamboo shoots under your finger nails than admit there are good bows by Mathews and other manufactures. I think Bowtech needs to add this disclaimer to their bows: WARNING BRAIN WASHING IS ABOUT TO BEGIN!!!!!