I switched to a hang on and climbing sticks several years ago and haven't looked back. Much better...use any tree. I broke down and bought an aluminum one for this season though.....every ounce matters to us old guys. In my woods early in the season, I only go up 12 feet initially but add more sections to the ladder later on in the season. When the leaves are all on and the canopy is low, 12 feet works great for me...but later on I need the increased height. This year, I have 4 hang on/stick combo stands and one 16 foot ladder stand. A five stand total gives me great flexibility. Now....if I can just find time to hunt!

Clint