Ok Try this. you wont be sorry then post the pic here. the rut is here just do this and you will have bucks all over you. Ok go buy a large amount of doe in heat urine. I use buck fever but I think most work. then before light hit the woods about 1/2 mile from your stand put urine in a spray bottle and walk in as straight of a line to your stand as you can, the whole time you are walking spray the doe in heat on trees the ground anything you come close to, then on a limb in your shooting lane out about 15 yards put up a sponge that is totally soaked in urine. You ever see hounds go after a bear??? A friend told me to do this and I thought he was nuts. I spent about 20 dollars in urine for this one day. It was nov 3 in Michigan and I kid you not before it was light I had deer comming in. I had seven bucks come in on the sent trail right to the sponge and I shot the biggest one. not 5 min. later another one came in and the another and yet another. That January I went into the navy and Have never lived in whitetail country since but My friend gets a deer everytime he does this. if they are ruttin this is a forsure tactic. I want to see the pics... Go get them boys.