ORIGINAL: Stump_MN_Hunter
I completely agree with Strut&Rut!!! What is he doing out in the woods if he doesn't for 1..know what the heck he's doing, 2..know what his gun can do, 3..obviously doesn't know a good kill range of his ammo, 4..probably hasn't fired the gun with buckshot in it and knows the pattern of it, 5..I would imagine doesn't know even the slightest clue as to where the kill zone is on a deer and 6..why are you taking him out in the woods with you knowing all of this most likely to be true?????
I'm sorry, but both of you are extremely unethical and should stay out of the woods. Period! One day away from the season and you two are just trying to figure this out now?????? [:@] [:@] [:@]
Stump -
Just so that you know. I am taking this fella hunting for 1... because he wants to learn and 2... because that was the condition for being able to hunt his grandparents property. He has noone with a hunting background in his family. The only firearm he has is a 12 ga. that his folks got him for turkey hunting. He has put his time into shooting the gun and has shot buckshot in it. Unfortunately, I can't tell him much about hunting with his shotgun, because the only time I've used one is to go rabbit hunting. This fella feels pretty confident with his skills with the gun. I was asking for me.
Now, being that I use a rifle to hunt with. All that I anticipated on having to share with him is what signs to look for, calls to use and how to use them, also typical deer behavior. Basically all the stuff that was taught to me years ago. For someone to be passing on the pleasures of being outdoors and promoting the sport of hunting, tell me, how is that being unethical.
I must admit, after rereading my origional post it may sound like all of this is a last minute procrastination. However, it is far from it. Again, I was asking for my own inquisition, not his. I didn't want to tell him, "You hunt the ladder stand overlooking the 2 acre field and I'll sit by the pond" (which the longest shot would be around 100 yards).
That would sound pretty stupid, don't you think? Also, the question about shot positioning was for me and maybe a little for him. He asked me where to shoot on a deer. I told him that I aim for the shoulder or just behind it. I also said that my wound would be considerably smaller than a 12 ga. would be. I told him that I thought he should aim for the neck so that alot of meet wouldn't be ruined. Apparently, I stand corrected on that.
Anyway, even if we didn't belong in the woods. Wouldn't it be more ethical to provide someone who asks a question with a logical answer instead of shooting them down as if they were nobodies.