RE: Lever action rifles
I didn't read the other posts about deer hunting with a leveraction pistol carbine....Don't speak on what you don't know...I've taken deer with .44mag Marlin 1894 out to 147yrds, I've also taken deer with a 7.5" super blackhawk ranges as long as 121yrds (laser rangefinder). This was using handloads that MEANT every bit of "magnum" and filled the MARLIN'S pressure rating (handguns are rated well below what the rifles are capable of) and a scope of course. I've also used a .357mag Winchester 94 and a .45 colt Marlin 1894 on whitetails at ranges approaching 100yrds. My .44mag loads rival some .30-30 loads, using 1/3 the powder.
There are a lot of reasons people discount pistol cartridge carbines: they don't think they should scope them-->why would you limit how well you know you're on target? I like scopes on ANYTHING that I'm not ONLY going to use at short ranges, they DO make your more accurate.
They compare them to handgun performance, in many pistol cartridges, slow burning powders can mean the difference between a 6" bbl and a 22" bbl is a 50% increase in muzzle energy...my loads change from 1187fps average in my vaqueros (5.5") to 1620fps average in my 1894....230grns at 1620fps and grouping at 1.7" at 100yrds is pretty deadly.
THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO SHOOT LEVERGUNS. Probably the number one reason people discount leverguns is because they don't shoot them well. It takes a little getting used to to change over from a bolt gun to a leveraction.