Lady forge: I think most of your points have already been addressed. Your analogy placing federal susbsidized programs for higher education with indian entitlement programs is laughable. By your reasoning I suppose you would agree that the 1800's cattle food programs were a good think for indians. There is a world of difference between dependancy and assistance. Unless somebody has a new and different arguement that sheds more light on this subject, this will be my last post on this thread.