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Old 10-20-2004 | 08:07 AM
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Only through independance from government programs can the indians once again feel the pride they enjoyed ages ago
I ask would you as an American feel more pride in your College Degree and Independence if your school of Higher Education was free of all Goverment funding and subsidies.... Would you feel more pride in being an American if all Goverment programs were dissolved like the pride enjoyed by the americans ages ago... for example no more small buisness goverment benifits etc........?
[quote][yet we are the bad ones. I assure you that when they fought each other over land, they were not nearly as compassionate toward each other. /quote]
Surely you dont implie that the whiteman was more compassionate towards the indians whom lands they were stealing, women they were raping and killing, children they were mutilating and murdering, ponies they were slaghtering than rival tribes were when they fought over lands. If you are then would you state your examples that you base this belief on?
There was theft, drug use, disease, rape, murder, and torture long before the whites arrived.
Did the Native American Indians have Smallpox, Cholira etc before the white mans arrival ? ...No... Yes the Native American Indians had their share of disease and problems that were compounded and added to by the arrival of the whiteman.
I have a double major from the U of M, B. S. Resource Conservation & Political Science, minor in Native American Studies.
My mother is 1/2 Cherokee and 1/2 French.... and she lives in the Butte Area........... and we hold land in the Butte and Whitehall area's.... My Father was German , Irish and Cherokee...Studying it is one thing and living it is another.... both have different perspectives and some are shared.
Yes, I did go to college, yes I did get a degree. I payed for it with my own blood and sweat,
When you paid for your higher education was your school recieving any Goverment funding subsidees... CHANCES ARE.....very few colleges in this day and age are free of goverment funding... so once again I refer to the question of pride and independence you refer to in removing goverment funding... is okay to fund the whiteman with goverment funding and yet deny the Native American Indians the same benifits.... So would you deny the Native American Indians the Benifit of Goverment Funding in their pusuit of Higher Education? Where would you draw the line in goverment benifits to the Native American Indians?
The real discussion on this subject should be, is how to do away with reservations all togather, and assimilate tribal members into main stream America. There is no pride, no hope, no morality in the current reservations systems we have now.
This may be your belief ..... I dont agree with it and a good many Native American Indians I know would take offense to your statement......... To say that a people in general are without pride, without hope and without morality sounds to be a generalization and a bit of an INSULT.
The white man slaghtered the Bisen to the point the great herds began to dissapear from the plains... this was not done by Native American Indians running Bisen off the cliffs.... the Native American Indians had over 52 different uses for the Bisen they killed... How many uses do you believe the whiteman had for the Bisen they killed at that time?
The stories you tell of the drunken Native American Indians can be found on a daily bases in the rest of the world.... they are not only indemick to the reservations... pick up a paper or listen to the news it is saddly everwhere in the world these days.I do not proclaim to have all the answers but I HOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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