for me and my gun the Winchester 3.5 #6 supreme regulars, not the HV shoot best out of my 24" barrel with an H.S. Strut Undertaker choke, at 40yds I don't know how many are in all of the head and neck but on a turkey target where it has a red circle around the brain I can put 14 pellets in that circle, I am not saying that this is nessarily good because there are some guys on here that are smoking that with thier set up but I will tell you from field expierence that it will get the job done every time, unless I do something stupid and miss. In short, it is a cheap and effective setup