Me and my 3 buddies have 11 preference points for elk in Colorado. We need 1 more point to get picked for the trophy unit we want for the muzzleloader. Our other 3 buddies went in the unit we want this sept. With the bows It took 9 points for archery. They seen close to 50 bulls and all 3 bagged bulls. This is a rut hunt and they mostly used cow calls. They packed in 3 miles to hunt.