Way to go Bull Hunter. I was just going to add that piece. I've shot several elk and cannot really tell the difference between the bull's and the cow's ivories. Someone please? A spike's ivories are fairly small, but I have shot cows that are as large as the fives and sixes that I have shot too. In fact, My father-in-law's cow from last year had larger ivories than my six-point bull. Just wondering???