Hang in there Mathewsboy Things are really starting to look up in my area. The big boys are starting to move around a little bit. The bucks i watched last yr. are all good one`s 120-160 class. and i was seeing them around the last of oct-nov-dec. We will score!!! P.S I have seen one that would go around 110-115 nice deer but no shot[&:] hang in there!