Public land, CWD area, the DNR is going to whack everything, no limets this year. He comes by, I'm shooting. I agree, though, what if he got a couple more years? We were watching a 185 inch 10 point that was obviusly a very young deer a couple years ago, he got poached, but a farmer recovered the rack, not the poacher. It was aged at 3 1/2.