they suck in my opinion, i shot them out of a 270 and the bullet didnt expand at all, if you dont hit bone with it then forget it, the bullet will go in the size of a dime and out the size of a dime, my 2 cent
So you mean to tell us every gameking you shot a deer with that didnt hit a solid bone or the shoulder which more then likely passed all the way through the animal, you went and recovered the slug from the tree 150 yards on the other side of the deer????