I use either my .410 Stoeger SXS with "cheap" Wal-Mart Remington 7 1/2's or my Stoeger 12 Ga. SXS with cheap Wal-Mart Winchester 1 1/8 oz. 8 shot. I average about 75% with the .410 and about the same with the 12ga. I guess I didn't know Remington or Winchester made special cheap shells especially for Wal-Mart.