Thank you for the welcome to the board, just found it and its great. As to the size of the plot I would say it will be about 50X50 feet, could be larger, could be smaller-what would you say the minimum needs to be. Also There is a heavily used trail beside the area I intend on planting, is this wise or should I try to stay further away. You would not happen to have the amounts of seed/fertilizer needed for a given area. Can it hurt to put lime down if soil does not need it. Sorry for all the questions but this is new to me, really using this as a test for future plots. Thanks for the advice