Bentshaft, I like your attitude, I feel the same way you do, especially on the 'hoping I shoot a little better' deal. I have never felt any hard feelings towards anyone that shot better than I did, Lord knows a lot of people do. I personally try 2 things, I want to (dont have to) beat the people I shoot with at any particular shoot and set of targets, and #2 try to set a logical and reachable goal for myself at each shoot I make it to. Thats the one that I need to come at least close to, and if I dont, more time practicing. butchb.