Raleigh Redneck, I'm not really sure what yuor talking about...I have some dove decoys that are inflatable with stakes for the ground, and I have some featherflex ones with the clothespin clip. I don't think i've ever heard or seen the kinda your talking about. I got mine from Bass Pro....but you should be able to get them lots of places...gander mountian, macks prarie wings.....I also just recently bought a mojo dove that works great.