sorry i should have specified, i don't shoot magazine bucks either, mainly 16" spread basket rackers,( we have antler restrictions of 3 pts to one side here) i meant these guys were talking bout shooting anything as in spotted. can't persee why to do this when there are so many big healthy does running around here in Pa. that will put plenty of meat in the freezer. shoot the old ones less chance of disease and inbreeding , let new younger genes replenish the herd.