Same here I dont use a scope either most of my shots are 50 yards and under do to thick brush and woods atleast thats how it was in missouri, I recently moved to arizona here ill probably be using my scoped 308 more then my 30-30. Even though with the 30-30 using only open sights I have taken a couple deer beyond 100 yards with it. just dont kid yourself into thinking you have to have a scope for long shots but dont get me wrong scopes do make those long shots easier.