Hey bigkentk yes I am a late nighter most of the time but here lately the ole lady has been harassing me about stayin up late, but its like I tell her I aint sleepy so what else is there to do, I dont drink so no reason to go to the bar so I sit up late and chat with my friends. So she has kinda laid off of me a little. You said you were far enough north that you get lake effect snows man thats gotta be rough. I went up to Duluth sight seeing and on the way back we decided to camp for 4 days in ironwood in the middle of august and the wind was out of the north the whole time and we did nothing but freeze our asses off every night. The days werent bad as long as the sun came out. Its beautiful country up around Ironwood but the cold in the winter has got to be pretty bad. Jimmy